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This article covers the AEC Regents of mark's one and two delivered new or acquired second hand by Provincial during the period 1936-1957. The two largest groups of vehicles Provincial had during its independent days to 1969 were AEC Regents and Guy Arabs. The earliest Regents were delivered in 1936 and one of these (34 BOR 766) lasted until 1970. It is a fact that most of the Regents were long lived and some were rebuilt and others had parts of their bodies taken from then to repair their brethren. There are some fascinating stories connected to these vehicles and I will try to relate some of that here, but if anyone has more info I would like to hear from you.

34-37 BOR 766-769

The first batch of Regents were delivered new in 1936. They were registered BOR 766-9 and numbered 34-37. Some more facts are as follows: -

Fleet No.

Reg number

Chassis Type

Entered Service

Bodied by

Withdrawn

34

BOR 766

Regent I

1936

Park Royal

1970

35

BOR 767

Regent I

1936

Park Royal

1967

36

BOR 768

Regent I

1936

Park Royal

1957

37

BOR 769

Regent I

1936

Park Royal

1957

34 was scrapped in 1970, but 35 was sold to David Whitaker for preservation. 35 is still looking splendid today and still winning prizes.

36,37 were destroyed in the 1957 Garage fire in 1957 and the remains were sold to G Cohen (dealer) in September 1957 for scrap.

The longest surviving Regent 34 (BOR 766) is seen here in its latter days at Gosport Ferry. Thanks to Gerry Cork for the photograph. Click Here to go to Gerry's website


Now preserved since 1967, the always well turned out 35 BOR 767 owned by David Whitaker.


One of the 1957 fire victims 36 (BOR 768)  Photo: Alan Lambert


The Other fire victim 37 (BOR 769) seen here near the Fareham Viaduct en route to Gosport Ferry.   Photo: David Pennells


38-39 CAA 700-701

38-39 were delivered new in 1937, they were very similar to 34-37.

Fleet No.

Reg number

Chassis Type

Entered Service

Bodied by

Withdrawn

38

CAA 700

Regent I

1937

Park Royal

1965

39

CAA 701

Regent I

1937

Park Royal

1957

39 was also destroyed by the 1957 garage fire, it was sold to G Cohen (dealer) in September 1957.

38 to Fort Wallington for scrap in 1967

No 38 (CAA 700) at Gosport Ferry on route 7.  Photo: Ray Soper


39 (CAA 701) was destroyed in the 1957 Hoeford fire. It is seen here at Crossways in September 1954   Photo: John Gillham


40-41 COU 130-131

40-41 were delivered new to Provincial in 1938.

Fleet No.

Reg number

Chassis Type

Entered Service

Bodied by

Withdrawn

40

COU 130

Regent I

1938

Park Royal

1963

41

COU 131

Regent I

1938

Park Royal

1963

40-41 were both sold to Morgan (dealer) at Waltham Chase in May 1965 for scrap.

No 40 (COU 130) in company with  Bedford OWB, new in 1944, at Gosport Ferry. I suspect the operator to be J Dyer who was taken over in 1953.   Photo: Alan B Cross


No 41 (COU 131) parked out of service at Hoeford.  Photo: Alistair Douglas


42 DAA 848

42 has an interesting history. Its chassis was loaned by AEC to Birmingham City Transport in 1937. It was fitted with a Short H27/21R body from BCT 483 of 1930, and registered DOB 483 with fleet number 483. The body was then removed in 1938 and the chassis returned to Southall. It was then purchased by Provincial and a Park Royal body fitted.

Fleet No.

Reg number

Chassis Type

Entered Service

Bodied by

Withdrawn

42

DAA 848

Regent I

1938

Park Royal

1965

42 (DAA 848) in Gosport High Street.  Photo: Alan Cross


43-45 DAA 845-847

43-45 were delivered new to Provincial in 1939.

Fleet No.

Reg number

Chassis Type

Entered Service

Bodied by

Withdrawn

43

DAA 845

Regent I

1939

Park Royal

1964

44

DAA 846

Regent I

1939

Park Royal

1963

45

DAA 847

Regent I

1939

Park Royal

1966

43 was sold to Morgan (dealer), Waltham Chase, 09.08.66

44 was sold to Morgan (dealer), Waltham Chase, 23.10.65

45 was sold for scrap 09.09.66

43 (DAA 845) in Fareham West Street near the Railway Station.   Photo: Fred York


44 (DAA 846) seen here in Gosport. It was later to donate its roof and top deck to repair No 35 in 1964 following an accident. Photo: Alan Lambert


No 45 (DAA 847) seen here at the Ferry with a Hants & Dorset bus in the background.  Photo: Alan Lambert


46-47 DOR 920-921

46-47 were delivered new to Provincial in 1939.

Fleet No.

Reg number

Chassis Type

Entered Service

Bodied by

Withdrawn

46

DOR 920

Regent I

1939

Park Royal

1963

47

DOR 921

Regent I

1939

Park Royal

1965

46 was sold to Morgan (dealer) at Waltham Chase in May 1965 for scrap

47 was sold to Morgan (dealer) at Waltham Chase 09.08.66

46 (DOR 920) on route 3 from Fareham (West End) to Gosport Ferry via Anns Hill.  Photo: Alan B Cross


47 (DOR 921) seen here in July 1965 at an unknown location in Fareham.  Photo: Fred York


48-49 JML 784, KMD 306

48-49 were acquired from manufacturers AEC, ex demonstrators in 1939. They were new in 1938.

Fleet No.

Reg number

Chassis Type

Entered Service

Bodied by

Withdrawn

48

JML 784

Regent I

1939

Weymann

1965

49

KMD 306

Regent I

1939

Park Royal

1963

48 was sold to Morgan (dealer) at Waltham Chase in May 1965 for scrap

49 was sold to an unknown source in October 1964

No 48 (JML 784) seen here in its original condition, with the non-standard destination box.  Photo: Stephen Didymus collection


48 again, at Gosport Ferry after the destination display has been rebuilt, giving a more modern look.  Photo: Ray Soper


No. 49 (KMD 306) in wartime livery at Gosport Ferry.  Photo: Stephen Didymus Collection


50-51 DOU 427-428

50-51 were delivered new to Provincial in 1940 .

Fleet No.

Reg number

Chassis Type

Entered Service

Bodied by

Withdrawn

50

DOU 427

Regent I

1940

Park Royal

1964

51

DOU 428

Regent I

1940

Park Royal

1962

50 was sold to Morgan (dealer) at Waltham Chase 09.08.66

51 was sold to Morgan (dealer) at Waltham Chase in May 1965 


No 50 at Hoeford in the early 1960's just before its withdrawal.   Photo: Alistair Douglas


No 51 seen here alongside one of the ex Oxford Regent's acquired in 1941 53 (JO 1628) at Gosport Ferry.  Photo: Roy Marshall


10-13 FHO 602-605

10-13 were delivered new to Provincial in 1947 .

  • They all initially had Reading H30/26R bodies.
  • 13 was converted to open top in 1958 after colliding with Fareham railway arch. It was re-converted to closed top in 1960 by Reading's.
  • 11 and 12 had their bodies replaced in 1961 and 1959. 11 received the Reading body from 14 (EOR 251) and 12 the body from 15 (EOR 282). These bodies were older than their originals. 14's dating from 1944 and 15's from 1943.

Fleet No.

Reg number

Chassis Type

Entered Service

Bodied by

Withdrawn

10

FHO 602

Regent II

1947

Reading

1969

11

FHO 603

Regent II

1947

Reading

1964

12

FHO 604

Regent II

1947

Reading

1965

13

FHO 605

Regent II

1947

Reading

1966

10 was sold to Fort Wallington Car Breakers (Fareham) for scrap in April 1969.

11 was sold to Morgan (dealer) at Waltham Chase in October 1965 for scrap.

12 was sold to Fort Wallington Car Breakers (Fareham) for scrap 21.02.67

13 was sold to Fort Wallington Car Breakers (Fareham) for scrap 21.02.67

No 10 (FHO 602) is seen passing the front of Fareham Bus Station in West Street.  Photo: Mike Fenton


No 10 (FHO 602) is seen at Gosport Ferry alongside Guy Arab 21 (KOR 463)


11 (FHO 603) with body from 14(EOR 251) in Gordon Road in the early 1960s.   Photo: Fred York


No 12 (FHO 604) is seen leaving Gosport Ferry on the number 3 route to Fareham (West End). This picture shows why Health and Safety experts do not like open platform buses, can't see anything wrong with it myself !  By this stage it had been re-bodied with the body from No15 (EHO 282).   Photo: Richard Newman


12 (FHO 604) with its original body at Gosport Ferry.  Photo: Stephen Didymus Collection


13 (FHO 605)before rebuild alongside ex Nottingham 63 (CTO 387) at the Ferry.   Photo: Roy Marshall


No 13 (FHO 605) is seen in Fareham Road outside Hoeford. Note the more modern looking body fitted by Reading in 1960 after a brief period as an open topper.  Photo: Fred York


1 JX 7048

1 (JX 7048) was new to Halifax, No 82 in 1939. It later passed to Potteries Motor Traction (PMT) in 1952, and to Beckett of Bucknall later in the same year. It had the radiator, bonnet and nearside front wing from London Transport STL 1599 fitted by Beckett.  

Fleet No.

Reg number

Chassis Type

Entered Service

Bodied by

Withdrawn

1

JX 7048

Regent I

1957

Park Royal

1959

No 1 (JX 7048) the ex Halifax Regent at Hoeford, note the London Transport front wing and bonnet fitted by Beckett of Bucknall Photo: Surfleet  


2 BUS 107

2 (BUS 107) was new to Glasgow Corporation No 541 in 1938, and was bought by Procter of Hanley in May 1953.  

Fleet No.

Reg number

Chassis Type

Entered Service

Bodied by

Withdrawn

2

BUS 107

Regent I

1957

Weymann

1960

Ex Glasgow Regent 2 (BUS 107) in West Street, Fareham on the Fawley contract.  Photo: Fred York


No 2 was owned by Provincial Traction, probably for use on the Fawley contract.  In this view it is seen inside Hoeford minus engine and radiator.  Photo: Douglas Parker


16 BUS 138

16 was acquired from Miller, Cirencester but was originally Glasgow Corporation No 572 in 1938. Miller's bought it in 1951.

Fleet No.

Reg number

Chassis Type

Entered Service

Bodied by

Withdrawn

16

BUS 138

Regent I

1954

Weymann

1957

This bus was lost in the 1957 garage fire. Its remains were sold to G Cohen for scrap in September 1957.


62-64 DAU 462, CTO 387, ETV 778

62-64 were acquired from Nottingham City Transport who bought them new in 1936/37/38.

Fleet No.

Reg number

Chassis Type

Entered Service

Bodied by

Withdrawn

62

DAU 462

Regent I

1954

Cravens

1961

63

CTO 387

Regent I

1954

Metro-Cammell

1961

64

ETV 778

Regent I

1956

Metro-Cammell

1961

62 -64 were sold to MTB (dealer) at Tadley near Basingstoke in January 1963


62 (DAU 462) at Gosport Ferry   Photo:Stephen Didymus Collection


An Earlier view of 62 showing the original destination box.  Photo: David J Pennells Collection


Ex Nottingham No 63 (CTO 387). Note the high mounted route number box which Provincial chose not to use. The route number was carried under the nearside overhang  Photo: David J Pennells 


The other Nottingham Regent. 64 (ETV 778) at Gregson Avenue shops.  Photo:Stephen Didymus Collection


15 (EHO 282)

The long held beliefs about this vehicle :-

In 1943 Mr Orme-White carried out his first (of many) vehicle re-constructions. This involved an AEC Regal which he purchased from the War Department, original source unknown, it was registered DK 7791. Provincial re-conditioned the chassis and fitted a 7.7 litre AEC engine. Reading's of Portsmouth then bodied it with its first double deck offering which was to utility specification and painted wartime grey. It was also re-registered EHO 282 and numbered 15. In 1952 it was rebuilt again by Reading and withdrawn in 1959. Its body was donated to number 12 (FHO 604) on withdrawal and the chassis scrapped.  

UPDATE October 2006. Stewart Brett has been doing some research into this vehicle and discovered from AEC and Company records that the Regal double decker is in fact a Regent. It appears the company gave it a Regal number plucked out from thin air, and the same for the Mandator petrol tanker (see separate section). These two vehicles have always had two entries in a chassis list for the Regal. The PSV Circle are publishing a correct version of the Regal I's list shortly, with a new Regent list in the making as there have quite a few rebuilds with made up numbers for which they could have been mis-quoted as lorries. Stewart is now investigating who supplied two Regent chassis to Provincial - more details as I get them.

No 15 (EHO 282) is seen with its original body, Reading's first double deck offering.   Photo: Reading & Co

No 15 after its 1952 re-building. It was this body which was later donated to No 12 (FHO 604)

 

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