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In 1967 H Orme White retired, and the new
Managing Director was H H G Woolford, his background was in Provincial's motor
trade subsidiaries. This change at the top brought about a change of policy as
far as new vehicles were concerned. The last completely new buses bought by
Provincial had been the two Guy Arab IV's (70-71 SCG 622-623) bought in 1958,
there were of course many re-builds during these 10 years and also second hand
acquisitions. I personally used to cast an envious eye towards other local
companies such as Southdown and Hants and Dorset who were constantly getting new
vehicles and wondering if Provincial were ever going to buy anything new again.
The salvation came in the unusual form of a large number of Seddon Pennine IV
single deckers.
The first batch of nine arrived in 1968 and
were bodied by Strachans, a local firm recently based at Hamble. I suppose they
could be considered somewhat lightweight, but were B44D plus room for 15 extra
standing. This was the beginning of the end for the existing single deck AEC
Regal's. I personally thought these buses were very attractive, particularly in
the initial livery which was applied. I was so impressed with these that I had
to have a ride on one, so in 1968 I caught one on route 6 from Gosport Ferry
just for the experience.
The second batch of six I was not so
impressed with. They were bodied by Pennine Coachcraft a subsidiary of Seddon,
and arrived in 1969. I thought the bodies on these were particularly ugly
compared to the Strachans, a matter of personal taste I suppose.
In the early 1970s both batches were
repainted in the later version of Provincial livery (with the non-scroll
fleetname) and also into NBC green later on. My later experiences of the Seddons
were not so complementary, this was probably due to becoming used to the
delights of Bristol RE's and Leyland Nationals. In their twilight years
(1975-77) they were occasionally used on the number 1 and 2 routes instead of
the above vehicles, and I found them to be cramped, noisy and with the
enormously long gear lever somewhat archaic compared with the RE's and
Nationals.
They lasted 8 or 9 years on average, and some
were re-numbered by the 1970 partial renumbering scheme.
Fleet No. |
Post 1970 number |
Reg number |
Bodied by |
Withdrawn |
38 |
N/A |
MHO 189F |
Strachans |
1975 |
39 |
N/A |
MHO 190F |
Strachans |
1977 |
42 |
N/A |
MHO 191F |
Strachans |
1976 |
43 |
N/A |
MHO 192F |
Strachans |
1975 |
44 |
N/A |
MHO 193F |
Strachans |
1975 |
45 |
N/A |
MHO 194F |
Strachans |
1977 |
46 |
N/A |
MHO 195F |
Strachans |
1977 |
47 |
N/A |
MHO 196F |
Strachans |
1977 |
50 |
N/A |
MHO 197F |
Strachans |
1977 |
15 |
54 |
RAA 16G |
Pennine |
1975 |
23 |
48 |
RAA 17G |
Pennine |
1975 |
25 |
49 |
RAA 18G |
Pennine |
1976 |
51 |
N/A |
RAA 19G |
Pennine |
1975 |
52 |
N/A |
RAA 20G |
Pennine |
1976 |
53 |
N/A |
RAA 21G |
Pennine |
1975 |
No 46 of the first Strachans bodied batch
from 1968 seen at Gosport Ferry
No 46 (MHO 195F) seen at the Ferry Photo: by Charles Chidwick
No 44 in the later
Provincial livery, before NBC leaf green became all pervasive. Note also that at
this time adverts were being added to the sides of these buses. Photo: D
Fereday Glenn
No 25 one of the 1969 batch
which had the Pennine Coachcraft bodies. It is seen here in its early days in
its as delivered livery
The old and the new. Seddon 50 (MHO 197F), in Fareham West Street, in May 1969, pulls away from veteran Regal 4 rebuild 27 (CG 9612) which was withdrawn later that year. Photo: Bob Gray collection
No 25 again this time in
colour at Gosport ferry. Behind is one of the ex Midland General Bristol LS6G's
either no 4 or 5. Photo supplied by Mark Gentry
No 39 in NBC livery , and with NBC advertising on the nearside. Photo supplied by Stewart Brett
No 45 also in NBC livery . Photo supplied by Stewart Brett
Towards the end of their working lives, a couple of the Seddons were given dedicated duties as a free bus for ASDA, as depicted here by 47(MHO 196F). These were later replaced by ex Hants & Dorset Bristol LH6Ls. Photo: Bob Gray
Strachans-bodied Seddon 39(MHO 190F), heading out of Fareham at the junction of High Street and West Street en route for Knowle in July 1974. Photo: Fred York
One of the Pennine-bodied Seddons, 52 (RAA 20G), leaving Gosport Bus Station. Photo: Stephen Didymus collection
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